Solar Power
Some thoughts on solar Power after installing Solar on my roof.
We went to Solar panels, no batteries in the summer of 2021. Some things to know along the way.Choosing what to buy
In Texas we are limited to no more solar per year than we consume on average, Thanks Oncor. Oncor must review your plan and approve it.
Otherwise it's like a wild
frontier with a lot of green-horns out there jumping on the sales
bandwagon. Some things to consider when going solar.
Get Multiple bids. Focus on service and competence. Go see a system. Study the technology. Who covers the warranty, what is the warranty? High pressure, sign up today tactics, Say NO!
Some of the questions you should ask:
What is the expected life of
the system? As with anything, solar cells wear over time. They
loose efficiency. When figuring payback and use, know the real
life of the system. What is the MTBF, mean time between
failrues, of the equipment. How long is it supposed to last
without a problem.
Can they show you how it
will fit on the house? What
trees/shade will be a problem. Are
they your trees or a neighbors? If there are any roof problems,
fix them first. I had a new roof. If your house has an older roof,
re-roofing before the panel install may be needed. It will cost
more to roof with panels on later.
Can you put it on a pole in
the yard. Less fuss and mess and keeps the roof nice.
What is in the service
contract. Is it mostly cleaning the panels regularly?
Get in with a solar group. https://www.solarunitedneighbors.org/ is the one I use.
Lots of information and help.
Are you comfortable being
the contractor yourself? I would consult with someone that has
successfully contracted solar power for themselves if you do that. Most
of the companies selling it are the contractor, they higher other groups
to install it.
Are you in an area where falling debris can damage your panels? Birds in some coastal areas use the panels to crack shell fish. They just aim and drop… Sometimes they crack the panel.
What impact/wind load can they take? Mine are up to class 4 tornado. At that point the house would be gone.
There is an inverter on the system that can be accessed with an App, but the sales groups may have to hook you up with it. I did finally get tied in after 2 months. In my case I needed Mysolaredge app vs. Solaredge app. It shows output per panel which you need if there are problems.
Your house insurance will go up to cover the panels. If you don't tell the insurance it may not be covered.You may get up to 26% tax
credit for installing Solar. Need to check how long that lasts.
Don't buy an over-priced system just because you get a tax credit. You
will still be paying more.
Don't
finance,
there may be no payback. Some companies are doing
equivalent systems with $250 month for 30 years.
That is $90,000 dollars, over 5x the net price of mine.
All for the system that will be out of date by then. How do you get your
tax credit doing payments? Some companies loan you the "tax
credit" and you have to pay it to them after you get the refund. Watch
out for money slight of hand.
Know the efficiency of the panels. The amount of electricity generated from the sunlight vs. theoretical potential. My panels are 19% efficient. It took a few days for them to track down a person that could answer the efficiency question! In the 70s when I looked at solar panels they were 5% efficient. In 5 years they may be up to 25%.
I am waiting on batteries,
probably a few years. Tech is still coming on line that will drop the
cost and increase the life. Demand
is also growing. I think cost of the batteries is way too high
currently. No payback. They
can always be added later. Batteries
let you keep your surplus with near 0 grid use if everything is matched. Also power out coverage is
better. No need for "buy back" coverage
in your power plans. For now a backup generator is cheaper to cover
power outages.
If you are happy relying on the grid for non-daylight power and the buyback, batteries are not needed.
There are 3 main power grids in the US. East, West and Texas. Which one you are in may matter. What state you are in for solar buy back matters.
In Texas a solar bill of rights passed in 2021. Solar companies will now be required to list all the hardware and cost for each item. Similar to a car repair bill. That way you could also research the reviews on the hardware.
I didn't buy the advanced
maintenance after the first year. Why? I can reach the panels with the
hose to wash them off. Do it in morning/dusk, not when they are hot with
noon day Sun. The maintenance cost was so
high it took a significant amount of my payback.
READ
THE CONTRACT.
Installation
It takes a while to get the installation done. Mostly paperwork. Texas power grid approval took a month, Electric meter had to be upgraded. City inspection and permission to operate took another month. DON'T turn it on without approval, if anything goes wrong insurance may not cover. 3rd party installer worked for many "solar" companies.
Finally
got the Solar Panels turned on and inspected. And away we
go... sort of.
Texas
Power rules
In Texas there is no
buy-back regulation for consumer generated power as of June 2022. 38 of
the 50 states in the U.S. have a buyback rule.
1 to 1 for power you use vs generate. Example, if I use 20Kw at
night/under producing times and generate 18KW surplus in a day. with a 1
to 1 plan, I am charged 2KW, without the 1 to 1 plan I may be charged
for the full 20KW. No bill will be 0, in Texas ONCOR owns the power
lines, so they have a monthly minimum plus a charge per KW. You need to
know how your state works these charges.
We need to keep pushing in Texas for a consumer buyback 1:1 protection.
I switched "providers" to
one that has the 1 to 1 rule initially. With my old provider I get 0
credit for surplus 12 months of the year. And wholesale power cost is in
5 minute increments, not daily/weekly. It matters.
A year later when it is time to sign up again, the 1 to 1 now charges
me for the TDU, ONCOR charges. They have also eliminated "roll
over" value for my excess power to 1 month.
Power was de-regulated in Texas years ago. Power companies in Texas are similar to the long distance companies after the AT&T breakup. There are a lot of them. The power plans for solar change often. It is looking less and less free market as time goes by.
How can a power company make money on solar? I think the key is in the spot rate cost of power in Texas. It is adjusted every 5 minutes in Texas. It follows a peak demand curve. Since AC is a large percent of power cost in southern states, it drives the peak demand cost. My solar "over produces", during peak demand usually. They sell my over-production at high cost times and provide my power needed at dusk/dark times with lower cost power. That means what they provide vs what they sell is about equal, but they sell at high rate vs. providing at low rate. That is where they make profit in my estimates.
My system is balanced to equal what I use over a year. It was until Oncor did the numbers and took 1 panel away. We averaged $30 a month for electricity for the first 3 hot months. Not bad, it will payback in about 7 years. The biggest benefit is my wife can keep the temp low when it is hot. She is not made for warm weather.
last update July 6 2024